Hole in My Heart Podcast

Episode 195: Identity Series Intro // I am Loved by God with Laurie, Matt, and Steve

If you take away how people perceive you and how you perform tasks, what is left of you?
Today on the podcast, we are launching a series on identity with the goal to help us know who we are “in Christ” so deeply that we can walk into any room with confidence.
Join us today as we talk about the origin of this series as well as:
What comes to mind when you think of yourself?
Why did engaging the sexuality conversation attack Laurie’s identity so deeply?
What are some of our “templates” or defaults of how we perceive ourselves, and how can we shift them if they are unhealthy and/or sinful?
//Highlights:
“I’ve been doing this conversation for nearly a decade now, and I’m going to be one to push the brakes and not the gas when it comes to anxiety over this thing…. [But] I sense the enemy is trying to attack who we are—our identity. He’s been doing that since Adam and Eve, but there is something extra right now. And instead of roll over and say, ‘Whatever!’  Let’s engage it with grace and truth and courage.” —Laurie Krieg
“I was driving down the Beltline and I was weeping. ‘Okay, try to stay together, I’m driving! I need to be able to see the road.’ I was weeping the whole time, because it was like God saying ‘Don’t you worry my child, I will hold you.’” —Matt Krieg

“If you guys use Microsoft Word [you may know] you can do File—>New—>From Template….  ‘Oh, there is my old template.’ Seeing myself as a shell as a person who is only good for giving to others and doesn’t have worth in and of herself… I can wake up every day and say, “File—>New—>From Template: Worthless. File—>New—>From Template: You have to perform your to get value (or be perfect). What are your templates?” —Laurie Krieg
//Question of the Week:
What do you always say in your "about me" after "I am a child of God, etc..." Or what WOULD you say if you were brave enough. “I am…”
//Do the Next Thing:
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Episode 194: Let’s Define Some Things with Laurie, Matt, and Steve

Whenever we hear people talking about some of the topics we engage in (sexuality, marriage, addiction, sin, repentance, trauma, etc.), we hyper-tune our ears for what they believe and how they hold to what they believe.
If you’re curious about our views, this is the episode for you!
Today, we answer:
What is our philosophy of approaching the LGBTQIA conversation?
Why do we start the sexuality conversation with talking about the purpose of our lives?
Why do we usually use “LGBTQIA” and not “same-sex attracted”? (But we are willing to use either?)
How do we view inborn sin vs. internal, created-order goodness?
How might we encourage you to respond when someone tells you “I am gay?”
//Highlights:
“We need to submit all of these identities to Christ. Whether that is our sexual identity (heterosexual, not straight, LGBTQIA, etc.), or being a mom, or being a white evangelical in America. Am I submitting all of my identities to Christ and letting him sift out the garbage because there is garbage in all of it?” —Laurie Krieg
“If you go into a hyper-conservative situation and you say, ‘I am gay,’ they might be picturing the most extreme stereotype they have that might be very inaccurate to the way you live your life. Vice versa, if you go into a more liberal community or within the LGBTQIA community and you say, ‘I’m same sex attracted,’ that might be a trigger for them to think, ‘Oh, this is an ex-gay narrative, and they think I need to be straight in order to be saved’ (and that’s not what you mean). Therefore, changing the words that you use based on the context helps you to be more understood.” —Matt Krieg
//Question of the Week:
What is your favorite or least favorite word?
//Do the Next Thing:
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We mention this episode with Michael Card: 
We talk about this episode on shame
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We mention Core Needs. Here is that list:
Affirmed: Overwhelmingly approved of (Ps. 118:6, 2 Cor. 1:21-22)
Desired: Specially chosen—no pretense necessary (Is. 41:0, John 15:16)
Included: Wanted in this group, team, or partnership; I belong (Is. 43:1, Eph. 2:19)
Loved: Unconditionally accepted (Jer. 31:3, Rom. 8:39)
Nurtured: Cared for; held (Is. 40:28, Matt. 23:37)
Purposed: Filled with a sense of profoundly mattering (Ps. 57:2, Rom. 8:28)
Rested: Re-centered and reset in mind, body, spirit; includes having fun (Ex. 23:12, Ps. 127:2)
Delighted In: Seen as unique and special (Ps. 139:14, 1 Cor. 12:27)
Protected: Unafraid; trusting everything is under control (Prov. 18:10, Matt. 10:28)
Noticed: Seen inside and out (Gen. 16:13, Ps. 139:7-8)
 

Episode 193: Who Wants to Hear Our Stories? with Laurie, Matt, and Steve

We do! Who is Steve? Who is Laurie? Who is Matt? 
Today, we are going to get to know the people behind the microphones. 
Steve shares his story of depression, feeling inauthentic, and finding hope in Jesus in the midst of addiction. Matt offers his journey of depression and subsequent porn addiction in marriage. Laurie shares how she learned to trust Matt again after his deception and addiction, as well as shares her own story of wrestling with attractions to the same sex throughout her entire life.
As always, the team shows the gritty reality and beautiful glory of following Jesus in real life.
**Content/Trigger Warning:  Laurie shares a brief and not graphic reference to her sexual molestation when she was 11.
//Question of the Week:
How would you finish the following… “Nothing gets geriatric [insert your generation] going like… [insert something your generation loves like Coldplay, Polly Pockets, hair bands, or something else that your generation loves!]”
//Highlights:
“God did answer the prayer, but … I was like, ‘It needs to look like this. It needs to happen like this… where I don’t get in trouble. Where I don’t get exposed--and I can maintain my image.’” —Steve O’Dell
“Because of what we have been going through with Laurie’s health stuff, I am completely powerless. That is is hard for me. I want to escape… [but] God is helping me not to disconnect. “ —Matt Krieg
“Steve, I so relate (and to Matt, you too!) to that double life. We so want our churches to be these authentic places, but we are not great at knowing how to work with mess.”—Laurie Krieg
//Do the Next Thing:
Watch a video version of the episode here
For all of the podcast episodes, visit www.Lauriekrieg.com/podcast
We reference the Broken/Beloved Pastors series, and you can find the first episode in that series here

Episode 192: Why ”Hole in My Heart”? with Laurie, Matt & Steve

You guysssss!!!!!
After over a year off of the air, the Hole in My Heart Podcast is back!!!
We are back and we got a shiny new studio and some awesome new friends who are producing this thing.
Through a new partnership with West Michigan’s 91.3 WCSG, the Hole in My Heart Podcast has the opportunity to reach more people with the truth that the gospel is good news for *everyone* every day. (!!)
Today, Laurie, Matt, and Steve get behind the microphones (and cameras!) to re-acclimate long time listeners and welcome new ones.
We do this by:
Playing Two Truths and a Lie with each other (Can you guess the right answer?)
Talk about how the gospel has *still* been good news for us in the last year 
Offer how the podcast began, how we connected to WCSG, and why we named it “Hole in My Heart” anyway…?
Engage a conversation about sin, neediness, and why we run to things we don’t truly want or need
Share what we are looking forward to in the new season of HIMH!! (Eek!)
//Highlights:
“Whether or not I get healed (I don’t know), I do know eternal [victory] is guaranteed.” —Laurie Krieg
“Often times, we can look at our needs and think they are character flaws or deficiencies when in actuality they are created order.”—Matt Krieg
“I am excited about integrating. I think God has been working on me a lot on integrating—on becoming a real, whole person.”—Steve O’Dell
//Do the Next Thing:
Watch the episode here
We mention: Episode 24: Is There Hope for Us?
We mention The Marriage Series
Want to connect? Email us at podcast@lauriekrieg.com or find a community with other listeners on the HIMH Facebook group here

Episode 191: What Comes Next? with Matt, Laurie, and Steve

Well, dear family, we have an announcement.
What is it? First, let's hang out for a while, and talk about...
How did that "word for the year" go for you?
In light of that reality, how has the gospel been uniquely good news for you this year?
What is coming next for the podcast and our ministry in 2022?
We'd love for you to sit at the podcast table one more time with us. :)
 
//Highlights:
"If you are listening and you feel this frenetic burden to go and save the world, Jesus already did that. Abide in Him, walk in Him, and He will show you how to have your doing come from your being." -Laurie Krieg
“[Let’s] not just be like, ‘Well, that’s just Christianity, isn’t it? It’s suffering.’ …No, that’s not why Jesus came, so that we have to suffer and hate everything. There’s this good desire in us for this shalom and this peace. And if you want that, that’s a good desire.” -Laurie Krieg
//Do the Next Thing:
Want to send a note about how this podcast has affected you? Rate and review it, or email us at podcast@lauriekrieg.com.
We also mention these episodes—check ‘em out!
Practically Living Life in the Presence of God with Ken Boa here
How to Not Give Up with Christine Caine here
The First Episode of Season 5 here
Join our Facebook group here!
If you need a fresh look at Scripture, the CSB translation is a sponsor of the HIMH podcast! Learn more here

Episode 190: First Steps After Discovering They Cheated with Johnny & Amanda McKenna

The ugly truth has just come out:
One spouse has just confessed to unfaithfulness and the other is reeling in shock.
Where do we go from here?
Is there hope for a marriage in crisis?
Does Jesus have something to say to this place?
We are thrilled to bring back our friends Johnny and Amanda McKenna, who have been in this place and walked through—with Jesus’ help—to the other side.
Give it a listen?
// Highlights:
“Pray the prayer that was prayed over me, which is a super scary prayer to pray…but that prayer of ‘Whatever needs to come into the light, come into the light.’ Days before my confession, I was told that that prayer was being prayed over me.” --Johnny McKenna
“I ... have to trust that God’s gonna be there … when everything does come out and the pieces are ready to be put back together and God can begin His restoration work.” --Johnny McKenna
// Do the Next Thing:
Missed our first conversation with Johnny and Amanda? Check it out here!
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If you need a new look at Scripture, the CSB translation is a sponsor of the HIMH podcast! Learn more about our new favorite Bible at csbible.com.
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Episode 189: The Church Wasn’t Always So Bad at the LGBTQ Conversation with Greg Johnson

Did you know that CS Lewis’ lifelong best friend was gay?
Did you know that Francis Schaeffer was against orientation-change pursuit for gay people?
Did you know that Billy Graham was a compassionate defender of gay people who fell into sexual sin?
Did you know that John Stott encouraged the church to “repent of the crippling ‘homophobia’… which has coloured the attitudes toward homosexual people of too many of us, and call our fellow Christians to similar repentance”?
You guys…the church wasn’t always so terrible at the LGBTQ conversation, praise God.
Pastor and author Greg Johnson helped us understand this truth as he unpacked the church’s history, but he also shined light on some of the more dark shadows of our past and current state as he shared his own journey as a celibate pastor who experiences attractions to the same sex.
This is not an episode to miss…
// Highlight:
“[John] Stott said, ‘If the Church can’t be family for gay people, if they can’t be known and loved and understood within the Church, then the Church needs to quit calling itself the family of God.’” -Greg Johnson
// Do the Next Thing:
Want to hear more from Greg? Go get his book!
You can also check him out on Christianity Today!
Looking for community with other podcast listeners? Join our Facebook group!
If you need a new look at Scripture, the CSB translation is a sponsor of the HIMH podcast! Learn more about our new favorite Bible at csbible.com.
 

Episode 188: How to Discover Your Identity with Bonnie Gray

In a world of pain, identity can be hard to find.
With a diagnosis of PTSD, it can be even harder.
How do we navigate knowing who we are—and equally important, who God is, in a world that assaults us with lies day in and day out?
How do we do that with trauma?
With cheerfulness and grace, Bonnie Gray tells her story and helps to answer these questions.
Listen with us?
// Highlights:
“If you go through trauma and you don’t have Jesus, you’re gonna have to be a better version than what you were before…. But if we have Jesus, we say, ‘You know what, I can’t do it. And the beauty is that I don’t have to do it all. Life can be beautiful, even if it’s not perfect.’” -Bonnie Gray
// Do the next thing:
Want more of Bonnie? Check out her website!
We love her book! Go grab it here!
Enjoyed listening today? You can find Bonnie’s podcast here.
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If you need a new look at Scripture, the CSB translation is a sponsor of the HIMH podcast! Learn more about our new favorite Bible at csbible.com.
 

Episode 187: How to be Emotionally Healthy with Pete Scazzero

Emotional health is something that can feel elusive and impossible.
But is it?
And even if "attaining" total emotional health on this side of eternity is unlikely, what steps can we take to at least walk toward it? And why do we need to?
With the wisdom and tenderness of a kind father figure, pastor and author, Pete Scazerro, helps us answer some of our questions about the pursuit of emotional health. Together we explore the above questions as well as:
Why is the usual church-discipling paradigm to live burned out and overextended? 
What if we say "no" to people and they get mad at us. How do we process that?
Are there really two types of people in the world: the helpers and the helped?
We'd love to have you join the conversation.
// Highlight:
“Say the United States is gonna cease to be a world power, and fall, and become this dominated country by another country. We may live through that. I mean, who knows what’s gonna happen? The point is: COVID, all the pressures, are putting pressure on our inner life. But, you see, if you can develop an inner life with God that’s robust, the Roman Empire can fall, but you’re okay. Because your happiness is not dependent on your circumstances.” -Pete Scazerro
// Do the Next Thing:
For resources on building a Rule of Life, click here! 
And here is the logic behind it
Want more of Pete? Check out his website here.
You can also see his books here.
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If you need a new look at Scripture, the CSB translation is a sponsor of the HIMH podcast! Learn more about our new favorite Bible at csbible.com.
Watch this Conversation! 

Episode 186: The Power of (And Cautions For) Engaging Listening Prayer with Michelle Kyle

Sometimes, God wants to use counseling to help us heal.
Sometimes, it’s the Bible.
Sometimes, it’s the powerful word from a dear friend.
Sometimes, it’s prayer.
Sometimes (oftentimes?), it’s all of the above.
When Michelle Kyle and I (Laurie) met together for coaching, she said she felt “stuck.” I didn’t know if I could help her get unstuck, but using a prayer technique I have been engaging for 15 years, I thought I would give it a try. 
What did we do? 
Did she get unstuck?
What was the process, and how can I engage something like that today?
What cautions do Matt and I have when engaging this process?
Join us for this powerful and practical conversation on listening prayer and we will dive into these answers and more.
// Highlights:
“I just remember praying, ‘God, you’re gonna have to do something, because I literally close my eyes and I usually see nothing.’ And so I did….And all of a sudden, I did, it happened, and I could see myself on the edge of the pier.” -Michelle Kyle
“You [Laurie] had asked me, ‘Do you want to invite Jesus into that space?’ And I said, ‘Well, He’s actually already there.’” -Michelle Kyle
// Do the Next Thing:
Want to learn more about listening prayer? Check out Matt’s episode about it here.
We talk about it in this episode, too!
Looking for more resources? We’re big fans of HealingCare.org.
If you need a new look at Scripture, the CSB translation is a sponsor of the HIMH podcast! Learn more about our new favorite Bible at csbible.com.